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Matt Lauer recently grilled Bill O'Reilly about sexual harassment. Lauer could have been talking about himself.

Matt Lauer prepares for the broadcast of the "Today" show in New York on Dec. 12, 2014. NBC has fired Lauer, its leading morning news anchor, over a sexual harassment allegation, the network’s president for news said in a memo to staff on Nov. 29, 2017. (Karsten Moran/copyright 2017 The New York Times)

Two months before sexual-harassment allegations led to his own firing, Matt Lauer sat on the "Today" show set and grilled Bill O'Reilly about accusations against the former Fox News host.

In retrospect, the interview is incredibly ironic. Lauer could have been talking about his own situation when he said this: "You were probably the last guy in the world that they wanted to fire because you were the guy that the ratings and the revenues were built on."

And this: "You don't let your number-one guy go unless you have information that you think makes him -"

And this: "Did you ever send a lewd text or email to another employee?"

And this: "Did you ever have any human resources cases brought against you?"

And this: "Think about those . . . women and what they did. They came forward and filed complaints against the biggest star at the network they worked at. Think of how intimidating that must have been, how nerve-racking that must have been. Doesn't that tell you how strongly they felt about the way they were treated?"

NBC said on Wednesday that Lauer, like O'Reilly, had never been the subject of an HR complaint. After the firing, Variety reported that Lauer "was known for making lewd comments verbally or over text messages."


Lauer was the "number-one guy" at the "Today" show, arguably "the biggest star at the network," and "probably the last guy in the world that [NBC] wanted to fire."

Variety quoted an unnamed former NBC reporter who said network executives "protected the s--t out of Matt Lauer."

Lauer has not yet addressed the accusations against him, but it would be hard for him to completely deny the allegations, considering his own reasoning. He suggested that O'Reilly's accusers are credible because only a strong sense of having been wronged could have overcome the intimidation factor.

The same could now be said of the women speaking up against Lauer.